Take It From Us
Let's dismantle whiteness
The concepts we’re talking about are not our original ideas. We are two white guys from Iowa City sharing thoughts we have that have been informed by many different indigenous and black perspectives. The point of this podcast is not to claim expertise about these ideas, but to urge other white people to start (and never stop) deconstructing whiteness and dismantling white supremacy. The title of the podcast is somewhat ironic—you should not take our perception of these concepts at face value. Dig into the resources provided and actively seek out more.
1. What the fuck is "public land"
May 17, 2026 | Recorded at Zion National Park
Resources:
Robin Wall Kimmerer—Braiding Sweetgrass
Robin Wall Kimmerer—The Serviceberry
Nick Estes—Our History is the Future (Also cohosts the Red Nation Podcast)
Melanie Yazzie & Elena Ortiz—Red Power Hour vs. Indigenous Futurism
Sikowis Nobiss, Great Plains Action Society—End Stage Iowa: Big Ag’s Sacrifice Zone and Indigenous Resistance